Hi Abaddon,
Omce a JW, always a JW. You dodge and weave, bring up multiple subjects and refuse to follow your own logic out to its conclusion.
REx
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Anthropic Principal Debunks Naturalism
by Shining One inthe anthropic principle .
by dr. norman geisler .
the anthropic principle (greek: anthropos, "human being") states that the universe was fitted from the very first moment of its existence for the emergence of life in general and human life in particular.
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Anthropic Principal Debunks Naturalism
by Shining One inthe anthropic principle .
by dr. norman geisler .
the anthropic principle (greek: anthropos, "human being") states that the universe was fitted from the very first moment of its existence for the emergence of life in general and human life in particular.
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Junkyderak,
>Not really. You'd need a far better grasp of logic than you appear to possess, as well as a basic education.
Where does logic deal with the transcendant nature of God? Your concious mind is not at all explained by logic, nor can it be. Go on CARM web site and see why your logic cannot grasp any of what you think it can.You obviously did not see my post on the logical errors many of you here begin with, or maybe you just ignored it because you couldn't answer? Go away until you can quit pretending you are a scholar of some sort.
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A Comparison Of Translations
by Honesty indecide for yourself how accurate the new world translation is:.
*** rbi8 exodus 6:2-3 ***.
2 and god went on to speak to moses and to say to him: ai am jehovah.
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Shining One
What's up, Cygnus? Are you in poor health or something? Please let me know so I can get people praying for you. Rex
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Dungeons and Dragons game & JW urban legends
by rebel8 indoes anyone remember this game from (i think) the early '80s?
it's a role playing game of some sort that included some violent imagery or something.. i remember jws (and the media, come to think of it) making a big, big deal of it.
something like it was demonized or made kids murder people.
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You are not going to believe this. I am a 'dungeon master' of old! I played under another friend around '90 and then ran a game for one of my sons and his high school buddies. I ran some Dragonlance, Forgotten Realms, Undermountain, Ravenloft, Planescape and Spelljammer.
I used to write my own intros, fleshed out towns and cities, hopping from world to world. I was kind of generous over the years and they rose to mid twenties level in about 3 or 4 years of steady play. We had a real detailed world and characters, who even died once in a while! They played into their early college years. I still have a bookcase full of 2nd addition stuff!
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A Comparison Of Translations
by Honesty indecide for yourself how accurate the new world translation is:.
*** rbi8 exodus 6:2-3 ***.
2 and god went on to speak to moses and to say to him: ai am jehovah.
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John 8.24 (Literal)
24. |2036| I said |3767| Therefore, |5213| to you |3754| that |0599| you will die |1722| in |3588| the |0266| sins |5216| of you! |1437| if |1063| For |3361| not |4100| you believe |3754| that |1473| (((I |1510| AM))), |0599| you will die |1722| in |3588| the |0266| sins |5216| of you!
(I) Strong's Ref. # 1473
Romanized ego
Pronounced eg-o'
a primary pronoun of the first person I (only expressed when emphatic): KJV--I, me.
(AM)
Strong's Ref. # 1510
Romanized eimi
Pronounced i-mee'
the first person singular present indicative; a prolonged form of a primary and defective verb; I exist (used only when emphatic): KJV--am, have been, X it is I, was.
What are the implications by the WBTS changing scripture and teaching what they know to be false doctrine? Assuming Christianity is the true faith, then they are responsible for sending people to Hell! Jesus is telling the Jews that He is God and "if you don't believe it you are dead in your sins", that means Hell or separation from God! Observe that the usage in John 8.24 is #1510
"Ego eimi" is the same "I Am" that we see in Exodus 3.14, Hayah
(I Am)
Strong's Ref. # 1961
Romanized hayah
Pronounced haw-yaw
a primitive root [compare HSN1933]; to exist, i.e. be or become, come to pass (always emphatic, and not a mere copula or auxiliary): KJV--beacon, X altogether, be(-come), accomplished, committed, like), break, cause, come (to pass), do, faint, fall, + follow, happen, X have, last, pertain, quit (one-)self, require, X use.
Let's compare two uses of (am) this word in one verse:
Joh 9.5: |3752| When |1722| in |3588| the |2889| world |5600| I am, |5457| {the} Light
(((|1510|(I am )))) |3588| of the |2889| world.
(I am)
Strong's Ref. # 5600
Romanized o
Pronounced o
including the oblique forms, as well as es {ace}; e {ay}; etc.; the subjunctive of GSN1510; (may, might, can, could, would, should, must, etc.; also with GSN1487 and its comparative, as well as with other particles) be: KJV--+ appear, are, (may, might, should) be, X have, is, + pass the flower of her age,
should stand, were.
The above is simply a common usage, like one of us saying 'I am". Now look at the usage of #1510:
(AM)
Strong's Ref. # 1510
Romanized eimi
Pronounced i-mee'
the first person singular present indicative; a prolonged form of a primary and defective verb; I exist (used only when emphatic): KJV--am, have been, X it is I, was.
The second usage from John 9.5 is #1510, here again Jesus is claiming to be God. Jehovah's Witnesses are in the same boat as the Jews were. They do not believe that Jesus is GOD, therefore they are not Christians, which means by Christian doctrine they are going to Hell. This shows the gravity of the situation in cults that teach a false christ. That's why the church has often dealt severly with heretics that teach against the true nature of God!
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A Comparison Of Translations
by Honesty indecide for yourself how accurate the new world translation is:.
*** rbi8 exodus 6:2-3 ***.
2 and god went on to speak to moses and to say to him: ai am jehovah.
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John 8.24 (Literal)
24. |2036| I said |3767| Therefore, |5213| to you |3754| that |0599| you will die |1722| in |3588| the |0266| sins |5216| of you! |1437| if |1063| For |3361| not |4100| you believe |3754| that |1473| (((I |1510| AM))), |0599| you will die |1722| in |3588| the |0266| sins |5216| of you!
(I) Strong's Ref. # 1473
Romanized ego
Pronounced eg-o'
a primary pronoun of the first person I (only expressed when emphatic): KJV--I, me.
(AM)
Strong's Ref. # 1510
Romanized eimi
Pronounced i-mee'
the first person singular present indicative; a prolonged form of a primary and defective verb; I exist (used only when emphatic): KJV--am, have been, X it is I, was.
What are the implications by the WBTS changing scripture and teaching what they know to be false doctrine? Assuming Christianity is the true faith, then they are responsible for sending people to Hell! Jesus is telling the Jews that He is God and "if you don't believe it you are dead in your sins", that means Hell or separation from God! Observe that the usage in John 8.24 is #1510
"Ego eimi" is the same "I Am" that we see in Exodus 3.14, Hayah
(I Am)
Strong's Ref. # 1961
Romanized hayah
Pronounced haw-yaw
a primitive root [compare HSN1933]; to exist, i.e. be or become, come to pass (always emphatic, and not a mere copula or auxiliary): KJV--beacon, X altogether, be(-come), accomplished, committed, like), break, cause, come (to pass), do, faint, fall, + follow, happen, X have, last, pertain, quit (one-)self, require, X use.
Let's compare two uses of (am) this word in one verse:
Joh 9.5: |3752| When |1722| in |3588| the |2889| world |5600| I am, |5457| {the} Light
(((|1510|(I am )))) |3588| of the |2889| world.
(I am)
Strong's Ref. # 5600
Romanized o
Pronounced o
including the oblique forms, as well as es {ace}; e {ay}; etc.; the subjunctive of GSN1510; (may, might, can, could, would, should, must, etc.; also with GSN1487 and its comparative, as well as with other particles) be: KJV--+ appear, are, (may, might, should) be, X have, is, + pass the flower of her age,
should stand, were.
The above is simply a common usage, like one of us saying 'I am". Now look at the usage of #1510:
(AM)
Strong's Ref. # 1510
Romanized eimi
Pronounced i-mee'
the first person singular present indicative; a prolonged form of a primary and defective verb; I exist (used only when emphatic): KJV--am, have been, X it is I, was.
The second usage from John 9.5 is #1520, here again Jesus is claiming to be God. Jehovah's Witnesses are in the same boat as the Jews were. They do not believe that Jesus is GOD, therefore they are not Christians, which means by Christian doctrine they are going to Hell. This shows the gravity of the situation in cults that teach a false christ. That's why the church has often dealt severly with heretics that teach against the true nature of God!
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A Comparison Of Translations
by Honesty indecide for yourself how accurate the new world translation is:.
*** rbi8 exodus 6:2-3 ***.
2 and god went on to speak to moses and to say to him: ai am jehovah.
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That pair of posts to begin this thread were outstanding! Very good research, Leolaia and Hellrider.
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The Atheist's Book of Bible Stories - new - The "Just Pretend" Religion
by RunningMan inthe just pretend religion
i was rooting around on the internet today, and i came across something that gave me a unique insight into how fundamentalists have a good time.
one suggestion was to have the kids re-enact the ten plagues of egypt.
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Shining One
As anyone can see by the cartoon picture, this is a way for children to learn Biblical history. If people get in an uproar over this they are Goofy. Look at the way they politically correct crowd got the Warner Bros. cartoons edited for violence.....LOL.
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Anthropic Principal Debunks Naturalism
by Shining One inthe anthropic principle .
by dr. norman geisler .
the anthropic principle (greek: anthropos, "human being") states that the universe was fitted from the very first moment of its existence for the emergence of life in general and human life in particular.
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Shining One
You guys just can't deal with Geisler. He has demolished a few of your champions in debates. One of them actually admitted that the evidence for Christianity was overwhelming but that he could not accept it on philisopical grounds, lol.
For Tetly, use your imagination.......what side of the wager are you on? IF the Bible is correct about Jesus being "the way the truth and the life" and the ultimate reality is that you are sitting in judgement OF God, what will you lose? BTW, as long as you live, it is never too late to 'see the light'.
Just like the blind man in John 9, He opened my eyes to spiritual sight. I could easily have been on the other side of this argument.
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Anthropic Principal Debunks Naturalism
by Shining One inthe anthropic principle .
by dr. norman geisler .
the anthropic principle (greek: anthropos, "human being") states that the universe was fitted from the very first moment of its existence for the emergence of life in general and human life in particular.
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Shining One
Abaddon,
God is transcendant and needs no cause to exist. Whether you are a deist or agnostic there is no logical progression: logic stops here and cannot address eternity.
On the topic of abortion, I don't care who practiced it, when or where. That is irrelevant. YOUR modern science has determined that the fetus is human life, period. If you are in favor of it, then you are in favor of killing the most defensless members of our society. You don't need any more law than "thou shalt not murder". Are you also going to justify pedeophiles because this has been done for ages?
Where does your logic take you when you actually play it out all the way instead of halting at your own level of morality? How much can you stomach?
Rex